Are you looking for insight on how to navigate your spiritual and holistic journey when it comes to cannabis? Look no further! In this interview, Tory Keeter shares her honest experience with daily cannabis use as a wife, mom, professor, and business owner.
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- Release Date: Wednesday, March 8th, 2023
- Episode Number: Season 1, Episode 3
- Special Guest: Tory Keeter, MS owner of Triple Moon Consulting
Why You Will Love This Episode
In this podcast episode, I interview the wonderful Tory Keeter, MS of Triple Moon Consulting.
Growing up in a Southern Baptist Church and working as a college professor for the University of Oklahoma, Tory did not use or even approve of her husband's use of cannabis in her early adulthood.
So how did she become a daily cannabis user, happier mom, and proud owner of her own business?
During our conversation, Tory shares how cannabis has taught her how to truly be in the moment and not to dwell on the past or worry about the future.
She talks about the inner strength that allowed her to find her true, authentic self while remaining happy, healthy, and productive.
Tory helps us understand why it's so important to use cannabis as medicine, even if we feel it's taboo or wrong, according to some people’s opinions. She gives us permission - and guidance - on how these two worlds can coexist.
This episode is sure to help you discover how to incorporate the cannabis flower into your spiritual practice, tap into your own intuition, come home, and discover your higher self.
Learn more about Tory, how she incorporates cannabis into her natural lifestyle, and how to overcome the mom guilt and social stigma of cannabis use. Hear her inspiring personal stories and life-changing results by listening to the full interview!
In this episode, we'll discuss Tory's story and experience with holistic health, improving endocannabinoid balance, spiritual connection, and parenting experience with the regular use of cannabis.
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- 00:00 - Teaser
- 01:43 - Welcome and Introductions
- 03:55 – Meet Tory Keeter, a proud wife and mom of two children. Tory taught college nutrition courses for seven years. She has a Bachelor’s Degree in Health & Exercise Science Master’s Degree in Exercise Physiology from the University of Oklahoma.
- 06:29 – The importance of destigmatizing cannabis use and the perception of marijuana users, especially mothers, especially given the beneficial effects
- 08:20 – What if we considered cannabis use as we think about nutrition and our diet?
- 09:27 – How Tory uses cannabis to be a better parent and improve her state of consciousness
- 11:42 – How to overcome the mom guilt associated with using cannabis
- 13:58 – How using cannabis can be a healthy addition to a self-care routine
- 16:30 – Why cannabis use is a journey, not a destination – it’s bio-individual and includes the practice of body awareness
- 20:16 – How cannabis use can increase awareness of our moods, mental health, and stress with intentional use
- 23:38 – The grassroots movement women are making to destigmatize cannabis use during motherhood
- 26:44 - Final four questions
- 28:49 – Using cannabis to manage grief and loss in a responsible and helpful way
Meet Our Special Guest
Tory Keeter is a force to be reckoned with. As a wife and mom of two kids, she's a real-life Superwoman! Tory is also an enthusiastic entrepreneur and proud owner of Triple Moon Consulting.
She's multi-passionate with local farming experience and seed bank management and distribution, as well as birth assistant, birth coaching, and nontoxic living specialist. Tory incorporates nature into her practice while making it approachable for busy moms and dads.
Her story is a testament to the power of bravery, determination, and trust – qualities she now uses to coach her clients on defining success on their own terms.
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If you are brand new to cannabis, I recommend starting with my beginner's guide to cannabis use. Whether it is the medical use of marijuana or recreational use, the same approach of starting low and going slow should be used. Cannabis consumption is unique to each person and their unique endocannabinoid system. Start with a low dose and assess your reaction; you can always move to a higher dose when the time is right.
While cannabis is used for helping to relieve chronic pain among cancer patients and other conditions, it can have some unpleasant side effects, especially if too much is consumed. One of the active ingredients, THC, has health benefits but can cause increased heart rate, high blood pressure, or anxiety. Remember, different strains cause different effects.
Making this podcast with Tory Keeter was an incredible experience. Despite changing paths significantly, Tory has held on to her sense of intuition and empathy that led her to where she is today: helping others transform their lives through the power of nature-based cannabis wellness practices.
She encourages those who have been scared away by societal stigma to find their own unique paths in the industry and create a space for diversity.
Everything from her personal story to her wise advice has been so motivating and powerful; I hope it encourages you just as much as it did me!
Thank you again so much for listening, and be sure to check out Triple Moon Consulting for more from Tory Keeter.
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Tory: Plants are okay. Plants were given to us by a creator, God, source, whoever, the universe. Plants grow, and they're here for our usage. We have a symbiotic relationship with them, and it's okay.
Announcer: Welcome to the Well With Cannabis Podcast, a show dedicated to telling the life-changing stories of those who live well with cannabis all while teaching you how to do the same. Meet your host, Emily Kyle, a registered dietitian nutritionist turned certified holistic cannabis practitioner. Emily changed her life for the better with the help of the cannabis plant, and now she's committed to helping others do the same.
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Emily: Hello, Tory, and welcome, and thank you so much, and I'm excited because you are actually my very, very first interview. I actually was reading back on our emails, and we have had two funny exchanges, and I wanted to thank you so much for being so nice to me and really just forgiving. So I am feeling good vibes going in. You're my first interview, we connect really well, and I'm super excited to talk about cannabis and motherhood and how it can improve everything on a bigger level.
And so anyway, I was reading back on our emails, and you emailed me. You took my Edibles Made Easy Course as a reviewer to see if I made any mistakes. And you found an actual, really big mistake. You emailed me, and maybe I'll have to decide if I should allow swearing on the podcast or not because I obviously swear a lot.
So, in my video, I said, "f@*k!" and then I started re-recording again. And you were like, "um, you forgot to cut that part out." And you were so sweet and nice about it, and you helped prevent many other people from seeing that; thank you so much. And then, recently, with the podcast, I had a typo in one of my emails.
When I get excited about a project, I just go full force; I'm like, ah, let's do it! I'm recording all 70 interviews in the next three weeks; let's get this done. So anyway, you emailed me, and you're like: "your personalization thing didn't work. It was just your name". And I was like, "I'm so sorry about that!" Do you know two people emailed me and were like, "How dare you?" And I was like, "Oh wow. Come on, people. I get it; I made a mistake. And I said, "I'm sorry I made a mistake."
I get excited when I start projects. I'm excited about this podcast. And so, thank you so much for being nice to me and even being willing to do this. I'm so excited to just learn a little bit more about you, who you are, and where cannabis intersects with your life.
Tory: Yeah, well, awesome. Thanks, Emily. I have enjoyed everything, and I love how you make it so accessible for people in their homes because I have Magic Butter Machine, I have different, I have, what do we have the De Novo. So I have these machines, but I love how you make it; you're like, "you don't need all these fancy machines." But if you want them, here are some links. But you just make it so down-to-earth and accessible.
Emily: Thank you.
Tory: And so, that's kinda what resonated with me when I first found you. I was like, oh, she's a mom; she's just trying to do her thing and share your knowledge and educate. And so as an educator, so I taught nutrition at OU for seven years.
Emily: Oh gosh, that's amazing!
Tory: Yeah, so basically, the educating. I was like, "oh, Emily's an educator." I saw that, and I get that; I think that kind of meshes with me. And so I appreciate that and all you're doing. So I'm Tory Keeter. My bachelor's degree is in health and exercise science, and I have my master's in exercise physiology. And I graduated in 2012 got married that same summer. So I've been married for about ten years.
And so, when I graduated, I worked at a hospital doing exercise prescriptions and testing. I really enjoyed that. But then I went back into academia and taught intro-nutrition for seven years. And it was 2021, I guess almost two years now. And I just realized it wasn't really worth my time. And I had two kids, two young kids; my kids are seven and four. And so, just stretched me real thin. And I was like, okay, I gotta find something else.
So then I worked for a nonprofit for a year doing nothing related to nutrition. I was managing their social media accounts, writing their newsletters, and doing copywriting stuff. That was new territory for me. But I guess as far as cannabis goes along my journey, I was introduced back in 2016 or 2017. My brother and sister-in-law lived in Colorado, so we'd visit. That was our first visit to a dispensary, and we're like, "What is this?"
Emily: Isn't it the craziest experience when you go?
Tory: It's so weird because you're like, "is this okay? You're like, what am I-?"
Emily: It's like being naughty, yeah.
Tory: Yeah. So since then, I've been on a journey to destigmatize the plant. And especially with moms, as you know, and particularly daily usage. I didn't start using daily because I still had that stigma. I'm like, "Ah, how do you use this?" And "Ah, I don't want to be a pothead; I don't want to be a stoner." All the things.
My husband actually started smoking first. I was still kind of judgy towards him about it, and not sure. I was like, "Just keep it away from me." All these kinds of things. And then Harlequin, a three-to-one strain, I call it my gateway strain. I made some infused oil with it and actually used it in place of lidocaine at the dentist. Now, I don't know if that's medically proposed, so no one do that, please, but this is my personal experience, what I did.
I microdosed and stacked the oil dosage and realized, wow, it helped with the pain, it helped with just keeping me calm, all of those things, and I could still function. And so that really opened my mind up to the whole realm of possibilities with this plant. Since then, I started with oil. Now we do FECO, infused oil, and edibles. I started smoking recently, probably a year ago, so I didn't really start with that. But I think, again, that's a stigma with women smoking weed.
Just educate on how you can use it, and here's how you can change it up and get the most benefits out of the terpenes and your cannabinoids and all those things. So that's a little bit of my journey, a summary.
Emily: That's amazing. So I definitely connect the nutrition part with you as well. I originally went to school to be a registered dietitian, and honestly, that's where I want to really intersect education for people. I feel like if we broke it down, we can break down nutrition. At this point, most people understand what is healthy food and what is not healthy food, but that there is so much nuance in a diet. And I want people to understand that about cannabis too.
And I say, finding your cannabis regimen is like finding the perfect diet for you. You could spend your whole life it will consistently change throughout time as well. And so I find that that makes a perfect parallel.
And I find people who are very interested in their health and their nutrition are increasingly more interested in cannabis. As we move from this stigmatized, stoner, a lazy drug to people like me and you who are actually real, functioning, normal, happy, great parents, and who are, and maybe you can say this as well, I am a better parent because of cannabis.
And if you feel that way, I'd love for you kinda just to touch a little bit on how you intersect cannabis and motherhood because I feel like that looks different for everybody.
Tory: Yeah, it really does. And I think that needs to be talked about more. As I said, the stigma of using it daily. The stigma of "you're addicted to something if you take it daily." And with the nutrition part, we can parallel that with sugar. So we can get into all of that, and we won't, but I guess for me, what really made me realize, "oh, this plant can help me be a better mom" is, I think, most fundamental.
I don't remember when it was, probably 18 months to two years ago; I remember there was a moment when one of my kids accidentally spilled a cup of water on the ground. And I had taken some oil earlier in the day. And I wasn't pissed about it. I didn't snap at them; I didn't yell at them. And I understood it was just an accident. And that helped me realize, oh my God. This plant can help me just parent in a better way and be present with my kids. So I play with them a lot more.
Emily: It's fun.
Tory: I am happier to be around. Yeah, I'm like, "Okay, let's have fun; let's laugh." And they laugh; they love laughing. And so it's that connection. It helps them feel connected to mom and dad. I mean, anytime we're high, we're like, "Yeah, let's play Mario Kart," or "Let's play Nintendo or play things together." And so, being present. Patience, so much more patience.
Emily: Patience. I mean, just as a mother in general, I have an eight-year-old and a one-year-old. And what you said about snapping, I hope many mothers listen to this and are like, oh my gosh. Because every time we snap, we feel so guilty. And what is worse? The guilt of snapping or the guilt of using cannabis and not snapping.
Me, I don't feel guilty about using cannabis anymore because I know that I'm a better mom now. I don't feel bad at this point. If society feels that, that's okay, that's on them. But do you feel guilty? Have you felt guilty at all, experienced that?
Tory: Good question. I think initially, yeah. And I think I had to find that because of what I'm saying about the stigma, just whoever will look negatively at me as a mom or as a stay-at-home mom or whatever. Like, "Oh, you just stay home and get high all the time."
It's like, well, sometimes that might be true, but I'm able to make my kids food, I play with them, I'm present, go to the park, whatever. We can do these things and function. And so, I guess the guilt comes from probably the daily usage. And again, I had to get my mind around that.
But when you understand it as medicine. And that's what we tell our kids. We're like, "Well, mom and that are taking their medicine." We call it medicine. Because it is our medicine, it's our mental health medicine; it's our physical medicine. You know, having two kids does a thing to your body. After my, I think it was after my second, she's going to be five next week.
So it's really just been four years that I've been using this plant. But it was after both of them, my back, and just achy joints, and all kinds of stuff. And so, it's very multifaceted. So I guess the guilt kind of slowly trickled away when I understood how to use it appropriately, responsibly, and medically, and just as it's supposed to be used. It's a plant.
Emily: I definitely feel like, if any moms are listening who are feeling guilty, it's okay to feel guilty at first. That's just how it is. And hopefully, from both of us, you can realize it goes away over time. Ultimately at the end of the day, if you are feeling better, if you are taking care of your mental and physical health better, that's all that should matter. Of course, we care about what society says, but in the long run, no one has time to care what society says about you using cannabis in the comfort of your home to feel better.
Tory: And I think that moms who do feel guilty about it probably have a little bit of guilt with self-care in general. I'm just speaking of myself. I didn't know how to take care of myself. And I thought that taking time away from my kids was selfish. I felt guilty about that. This plant has really helped me understand, hey, it's okay if mom goes away for 20 minutes, goes to the bathroom, or outside, or whatever. You'll be okay; I'll be back, or just give us some space.
Boundaries. It's helped me enforce boundaries a lot more. And even my kids understand mom's not mad at me because she's saying no right now. She just needs some space. And so, there are lots of; I guess, self-care. If you prioritize self-care, this is just a way. This is my self-care, my daily self-care.
Emily: I would love for the world to accept cannabis as a tool in the self-care tool belt. Truly, I really think that that is. I don't know if you have had this experience, but when I use cannabis, and I feel better, I'm more likely to exercise, I'm more likely to eat healthier and treat my body better, I am mentally more functioning, I'm more likely to meditate or do yoga.
It's almost all-encompassing; they all go together. I would love for other nutrition professionals to kind of take over the realm of cannabis education because I feel like they go so perfectly together.
Tory: Yeah, they do. That was another thing. During COVID, we were kind of taking our oil preventatively. Well, we may have had it a few times. We honestly didn't get tested, but just the sickness. But we realized we're taking this coconut oil, which, as you know, is high in good fats or MCT oil, whatever it is.
We're taking that almost daily. And so we're getting the fat benefits of the coconut oil with the cannabis benefits. And so we're like, "Man, "we are like double dosing ourselves."
Emily: Ready to go.
Tory: And we did, our immune system. And so, I think as I've used it daily, I understand a little bit more about how it affects the body. Our nervous system, our immune system. And I'm not a scientist, and like you're saying, as far as the education goes, I'm just personally experiencing it.
And so, getting the researchers and educators on board with like, hey, this affects our bodies, and all of it, and our brains, and everything. And just experiencing that daily, it needs to be talked about more. The benefits.
Emily: Definitely. I definitely agree. I feel like we as a society are so used to our western culture of medicine where you go to the doctor, and they give you a prescription, and it fixes the thing. I feel like cannabis use is just literally the opposite, where you are using it without a doctor because there's not really a doctor to guide you.
And even if there was, I want people to understand that cannabis is so unique to each one of our own bodies, you and me. We can't just go out there and say, take five milligrams of THC, and you'll be fine. It doesn't work like that. And so, maybe it just doesn't fit into conventional medicine in any way, and maybe that's why they're against it.
Many people want the research and the science and the definitive answers. I don't think that we're going to actually see them in our lifetime, unfortunately. As someone who's been through the traditional healthcare system, I truly believe that the reason cannabis is not where it should be is because of its power and benefits.
A lot of people, they're like, "Just tell me what to do." But cannabis use is a journey, and it changes, maybe daily, with each person. It can really take a while to find what's perfect for you. I don't know if you've had this experience, but it's such an intuitive thing. All the research in the world isn't going to guide each person to their perfect path. Have you noticed that?
Tory: Yeah, I think the word that I would describe is its bio-individual.
Emily: Oh, I love that, yeah.
Tory: Our diets, like you're saying, there's no one diet that fits all. It's whatever works for you. Whatever works for me, and whatever works for my husband, whatever. I think that cannabis is the same. It's bio-individual.
Someone may be able to take a 25-milligram gummy and be fine, but someone else, no, they're gonna have the worst experience of their life. It's the empowering process of body awareness. I think that's the other ultimate; I'd say the top three things I've learned about myself is how to be more aware of my body.
Things that have CBG in them, I know how CBG affects me. It's really heady, I get pain relief, and I really like it; I enjoy it. But I wouldn't know that if I didn't slow down and I'm not aware of how my body's feeling or what I'm feeling.
I totally agree, it's a journey. It's the journey of becoming empowered and knowing, hey, I trust myself enough to be able to medicate myself with this plant. And I think many people are afraid of that because our culture is this authority structure. And it's hierarchical. Go to the experts. I'm no expert; I'm just a mom who uses it daily, but here's what I can tell you.
Emily: You're the expert of your own body. In most cases, a doctor is a stranger. And you're literally taking their advice. I will say for this podcast I am not against western medicine in any way, shape, or form. There are definitely situations where it's needed, respected, and appreciated. It's just our culture around the way we take care of health and wellness.
I never want anyone to think that I'm not for prescription medication, whatever works for you. I'm a whatever works for you kind of person, but the same should be for cannabis too. Again, we are the experts of our own bodies. Our society has spent a lot of money trying to tell us that we're not, that we don't know our bodies, and that we shouldn't know our bodies.
Cannabis really is like coming home to yourself, I feel like, mentally and physically.
Tory: Yeah, I love that, coming home to yourself. I think that being aware of, again, like I was saying, how it affects me, my moods, just being aware of my whole being. Understand that my mental health is tied to my physical health, so my stress and my back, my shoulders, and the pain in my upper back.
It's like, oh, I'm stressed. Okay, take a deep breath, or let me go and smoke something, and just get the edge off or calm down. Intentional, I guess, would be the word. Using it intentionally. And I think that's where things just fall through the gaps as far as the stigma goes.
Emily: A hundred percent.
Tory: The stigma is around recreational use. "Well, you're just getting high all the time." It's like, well, someone can actually be "high all the time" but still use it intentionally. Sort through what's your intention. As you and me, as moms, our intention is so we can become better mothers, so we can heal our bodies, can be pain-free, and help with our pain, whatever it is. And so, it's hard for someone to pardon my language, sh*t on that if you're doing it for your own growth and healing process.
Emily: Yes, and I always tell people cannabis is just like anything else. Food, alcohol, water. Too much of it is not a good thing. And I don't know why people think people can't manage responsibly. Like we manage food responsibly, we manage finances responsibly, we raise humans responsibly, and you don't think that I can take care of a plant responsibly?
I find that crazy that people are so scared of a plant. I grow vegetables in my backyard, and no one blinks an eye, but I grow another plant that makes me happier and nicer, and yet there's something wrong with that. And at the end of the day, why is it like that? And I really struggle with wondering, is it a government thing? Is it a health thing? Is it something bigger that we just don't even know about? Why can people not just enjoy this plant and just be so thankful that we have it in the first place?
Tory: Yeah, yeah.
Emily: And that's just a rant. I get crazy about it, but.
Tory: Well, and I think it kinda ties back to what we're talking about, just people and their authority structures. The people who trust authority structures are scared, maybe subconsciously, but they're subconsciously scared to feel something or to feel like, oh, I can be responsible for my own health. What is this?
Emily: Yeah. And I'm sure you've seen this too. How many people do you know who say, since starting to use cannabis, I don't use X, Y, Z prescriptions? I know people who've been on five, or eight different kinds of medications. If you think of being on those medications for a lifetime, someone's losing money somewhere.
And I wonder, is that just it? Is it all about money? Is it all about money and not about people? I think so, unfortunately. But I don't know; it's wild. And even though we are seeing legalization, I mean it's completely legal here in New York, the guilt and the stigma that's put on mothers I don't think is going to go away anytime soon.
Tory: Yeah, no, I don't either. And I think it starts at this, I guess, for lack of a better word, the grassroots level. With me, you, educators, just empowering ourselves and showing people, hey, we can be a mom, and you can still use cannabis daily if you want.
And so I appreciate that you want to talk about it more, that you want to get people's stories. Because I think for me the stories are the most compelling. Because it takes away the stigma of, "oh, it's okay; I'm not alone." I thought I was alone doing this, but it's okay.
Emily: That's a hundred percent why I started this. When I first used cannabis, I was alone. There was nobody. I spent so much of my twenties hiding the fact that I used cannabis. I would use hand sanitizer and gum. I would die if someone found out. So obviously, I was alone in that because I didn't share it with anybody.
But I still, to this day, don't have anybody in my life who has been impacted by cannabis the way I have (aside from my mom), where daily use is; that's life. Being able to talk to somebody like you, a random person across the world, but to come together over this and have this conversation about not only the greatness that it can bring to our lives but helping us to become better mothers and raise better children.
I hope someone listens to this somewhere someday and says, "Wow, I'm gonna be okay, and it's okay." And just because there are no people in my immediate life that I see right now that aren't next to me supporting me, there is a huge community out there of people who do support you and who do feel like we completely understand what you're going through, and are just here to support you, hold your hand and say do what's best for you.
Because at the end of the day, that's what life's about, is doing what works for you, making yourself happiest, and making your children happy.
Tory: Yeah, exactly. If everyone's doing what's best for them, that is the path to peace. We won't do any heads off, fighting, or competing because we know at the end of the day, I'm doing what's best for me; you do what's best for you.
I see you're doing the best you can because I know I'm doing the best I can. And if that means using a plant daily as a medicine, I'll own that. Okay, yep, that's me.
Emily: Absolutely, yep. If that's the worst I will do in this world, I'll take it. I don't care, put the stigma on me; I'm happy to take it because my life is just so enriched; it's so much better. Here talking to you today is all because of the cannabis plant. My business is because of the cannabis plant. Staying home with my children because of the cannabis plant.
There are so many things that, if I hadn't used cannabis, I don't know where I would be in my life today. And that's actually one of the questions. What would your life look like if you never found cannabis? What do you think?
Tory: I think, ultimately I would still be stuck on the same wheel that I was in when I first got married, which was being a stay-at-home mom, and don't work, and just taking care of the home, take care of the kids, and just be this little servant wife. My husband and I met in a Southern Baptist church.
Those beliefs and those convictions were really deep. I think I would just still be in that same pattern of having more kids, raising more kids, and being exhausted at the end of every day. Because, like we're saying, I don't think I would've been free to be me. Free to be me and know like, hey, who am I?
I really think that cannabis, along with other plants, but primarily cannabis, has helped me understand who I am. Apart from being a mom, apart from being a wife, apart from being a daughter, and a sister, who is Tory? That's really helped me sort through that. I think without this plant, my identity would still be in other things besides "my identity is me."
Emily: I think that's beautiful, and that's such a great way to say it and kind of just honing in on the 'coming back home.' There's something about it that just makes you feel complete and happy. And I love the way you said that. So now that you look at life and you're like, I'm here, and I'm happy, and enjoying it, what are you most proud of?
Tory: Oh, man. Good question. These are all the questions that you have in interviews.
Emily: I think people need to hear these things because they're a result of you being brave enough to try something that's off the beaten path and trusting yourself enough to know that you are making the right decision, and ending up in this place of peace and joy.
Tory: Yeah. I think I'm just really proud that we've gotten through a lot of hard sh*t, and cannabis has helped me get through that. My mom passed away unexpectedly last July.
Emily: Oh, I'm so sorry.
Tory: And the last time I saw her, she was smiling; I was smoking my bong in my car. And I rolled the window down, and we exchanged a few words. She reached into the car and took a big whiff, and smelled and had a big smile on her face. So because of that, the plant means even more to me. Because my mom approved, basically.
She might as well have said, "Hey, you're my daughter, I love you, and this is great. I don't have a problem with this." I think I'm just proud of using it responsibly. And like you're saying, why do we not trust people to be able to regulate their own usage? It's like alcoholics, right? People get caught up in alcohol, and that's their thing; that's their vice. Hey, if someone wants to do that with cannabis, okay.
Emily: Go for it, yeah.
Tory: Have at it, but trust that there are responsible humans that can use things responsibly. I'm proud of figuring that out, trusting my body, learning my body, and just being proud of owning the fact. Like, yes, I do use this plant every day, and there's nothing guilty about it; I'm not ashamed, and I have nothing to hide. Ask me anything.
Emily: I love it, Tory; that's perfectly said. If you could go back to yourself before you used cannabis, 10, or 20 years ago, and give yourself one hint of advice as you move towards the future, what would you tell yourself?
Tory: I never used cannabis until my thirties. It was probably a self-righteous thing. More like a, "oh, you know, again, tied up in the stigma, just, I'm not gonna do that, that's gross, or whatever." I don't know what I believed. Just deeply seated stigma.
My advice would be, hey, plants are okay. Plants were given to us by the creator, God, source, whoever, the universe. Plants grow, and they're here for our usage. We have a symbiotic relationship with them, and it's okay. So I think being okay with plants. Plants are okay as medicine.
Emily: Beautiful. I love, love, love that. If you could be remembered for one thing in this world when the time has come and gone, what would it be?
Tory: Oh, man. Interesting question, considering my mom, again, passed away. I think about the things that I remember her for. Remembered for one thing. I think empowering women just to trust themselves. Trust themselves, know yourself, know that your intuition is correct and that no one has power over you besides you.
Suppose I can be an example of that to others, primarily women, just because we're women, mom to mom, and that feminine wisdom, primarily that. But just being an example you can walk your authentic path and, like you're saying, not care what anyone thinks. Walk your true path, and just walk in your power.
Emily: I mean, you're doing that right now, and I feel like anyone listening to this episode will be like, I need more Tory in my life. So tell me a little bit more about Triple Moon Consulting and what you're doing now.
Tory: Like I said, I taught at OU, taught nutrition, and I worked for a nonprofit, so I am a jack of all trades. I'm a Gemini, so I like constant change, just learning new things and sharing new things. Triple Moon Consulting is whatever my experience is.
Both my kids were born at home, so I'm a big home birth advocate. Cannabis usage, psilocybin usage, plant usage, whatever that is. The reason I call it consulting is because I really wanted to get away from this hierarchical structure we've talked about of someone looking for a coach to tell them what to do. I know my own journey, my empowerment has come from taking responsibility for my own life, my own choices, and everything. I own it; I own it all.
That's why I use consulting instead of coaching. I want people to know, I'll grab your hand and walk alongside you to help you with this, but I'm not going to tell you what to do or what not to do. And so it's still forming, it's still just figuring it out. I don't know; I just wanna meet the needs of my community, of whoever. Whatever I know about, I'll share with you.
Emily: I love it. I have a feeling people are going to just be listening to this episode and just feel super gravitated toward you and what you're doing. And just like you said, home birth and psilocybin, it all go so well together. I have a feeling people are going to be just all up in Tory's business. I can't thank you enough.
This was amazing, a great conversation. Mom to Mom, it just fills my cup, and I really hope anyone else listening will feel that their cup is being filled. As women, a rising tide raises all ships. As we all do better and as we all come up and are a little bit braver and a little bit bold, I think that we are really going to be the future of a new generation and a new face of healthcare, hopefully.
And I really appreciate you coming to do this with me. You are my first interview, and I am so excited to actually have this be the first interview because it's so perfect. It just embodies everything I want for this podcast. So, any last words? Where can people find you so that they can stay connected?
Tory: Yeah, Triple Moon Consulting, I have TikTok, I have Instagram, and Facebook. So yeah, that's probably the best place. And I think what you said about being a mom and just raising our kids in this world.
As can you imagine, and I don't know about your upbringing, but for me, if my parents had used plants responsibly, medically, however, they wanted to use them, but I watched them use that responsibly, I think my views of the plants would've been completely different at age 10 or 15 or whatever.
I would've found it earlier or been okay with using it earlier. The opportunity to be able to raise kids in a responsible manner and be present with them and patient is just; it's a little overwhelming at times. Like, oh wow, we're raising, we're mom-ing in this world.
Emily: Yes, we are.
Tory: And I think you are doing great, and I appreciate you doing this and just continuing to educate. And I know you're getting all the sh*t from social media, so.
Emily: It's all right. I mean, we're here to speak the truth, and we're here to do it in a free space, and I hope people hear this, and I hope that this can help drown out the social media bullsh*t and the censorship is there, and that's okay because we still know that we're doing the right thing at the end of the day, and so we're going to continue to do it.
Tory: And that's what I love about you. I've seen you; I guess over the last two years, I've really followed you. And so, from Facebook, moving off Facebook, then you moved to the onew platform, and now Instagram. So I appreciate that you're just like, I don't care. No one can stop me. I'll just start something new. So, I see that.
Emily: Thank you so much. I appreciate that; thank you. And kind of as you move into your business, I feel like I have a lot of potential cannabis business owners in the audience as well. Just know cannabis business is like, one step forward, two steps back, and it changes daily. I swear, it changes so fast.
And so if you're in for, like the fun and the ride and the satisfaction of making people feel better, it's the perfect spot. And I know that Triple Moon Consulting will help so many people. I thank you again for your time. This really was my dream interview, so thank you so much.
Tory: Thank you, Emily. It's so nice to meet you and talk in person.
Emily: I know I will stay connected; thank you so much.
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